sorry, I must WRECK your post on Moldbug, Julius Branson’s
Julius Branson (pls follow), Internet Scholar High voltage sign
@JuliusBranson
Aug 17
It's suspicious indeed. Google analytics indicate it may be inorganic.
Powerful parasites are pushing it for reasons I've explained.
I thought ‘what were the reasons’? There’s only one post on your
substack with ‘Moldbug’ in the title.
[<u>https://juliusbranson.substack.com/p/attacking-moldbug-a-brief-critique</u>](https://juliusbranson.substack.com/p/attacking-moldbug-a-brief-critique)
I didn’t find the reasons. Could you be so charitable to provide more
details?
Here is a quick rundown of accusations. I’ll answer them all. And you’ll
complain my answers are not empirical. LOL
1. ‘therefore fallacy’ - discussion from unproven assumptions,
‘painting’, ‘smalltalk’
2. noncentral fallacy -
1. redefinition of a loaded word -
2. that liberal societies are Orwellian Mind Control States -
‘practically unverifiable’
3. on totalitarian states and brainworms
3. ‘Harvard as church’ as anticoncept
4. disregard of empirical evidence, rhetorical tactics
5. skimming Wikipedia and bad citations, errors in quotes - ‘irritating
errors’, ‘knowledge level comes off as embarrassingly undetailed and
underdeveloped’
6. ideas as real objects without justification
7. Thiel funding - Hoan Ton That - author of Clearview AI, as NRxer
8. advocating for disengagement
1 But what is the null hypothesis? The very idea of narrating the
‘liberal democracies of the West’ as a ‘Orwellian Mind Control States’
makes you think. Question your assumptions. Then you’re free to accept
or reject the alternative categorization. Parallel to investigating
phlogiston...
2
noncentral fallacy - term introduced here
[<u>https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yCWPkLi8wJvewPbEp/the-noncentral-fallacy-the-worst-argument-in-the-world</u>](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yCWPkLi8wJvewPbEp/the-noncentral-fallacy-the-worst-argument-in-the-world)
> I declare the Worst Argument In The World to be this: "X is in a
> category whose archetypal member gives us a certain emotional
> reaction. Therefore, we should apply that emotional reaction to X,
> even though it is not a central category member."
>
> Call it the Noncentral Fallacy.
But your definition is different
> This essentially involves the redefinition of a connotatively loaded
> word, like Orwellian, church, or leftist, into another definition that
> allows something else to be labeled with the word. This therefore
> transfers the previous connotation to the newly labeled thing
> undeservingly. One example highlights all of these issues. In the
> beginning of his “Gentle Introduction,” Moldbug asserts that liberal
> societies are “Orwellian Mind Control States.”
too badly for you, it’s harder to disprove similarity than hint at it.
In feature space objects can be similar in many many ways. The original
definition assumes the construct of the category is shared between the
discourse parties, and it is the emotional reaction that’s contentious,
as it’s not a central category member. Moldbug’s argument deconstructs
our notions of the category, almost as if he was asking for EMPIRICAL
JUSTIFICATION for that belief.
3
Why is your method correct? it’s not that he has bad epistemology, and
you have good
you have empirical Randism paradigm, he has intuitive - parallelistic
‘as above so below’ 17th Century science mindset
he’s doing memetics, which works for the field
your approach doesn’t
if you’re so scientific, you need predictions as well, don’t you?
Randism
[<u>http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anti-concepts.html</u>](http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anti-concepts.html)
4
> Then it should have been empirically examined as to whether or not
they do this, and if so, what instrumental purpose it has. Depending on
the results, which are to be based on detailed historical fact and
perhaps some contemporary data collection, the question can be answered
‘historical fact’, lmao
“In the pursuit of truth, the rhetorical tactics” - respect the grift,
man
Why would there be a need? if it fits your puzzle, so be it
doesn’t science rely on speculative theory, wild guesses, that are
invested money and effort into, before being empirically ‘proven’?
5 Well that’s the high - level view that he’s attempting to construct a
broad narrative. You’d find Hegel’s Philosophy of History deficient in
detail too. There is a need to write in broad strokes that doesn’t
capture every single detail.
6
Oh man, you absolutely hate Hegel and Richard Dawkins, don’t you?
‘Talking about ideas as real objects’ isn’t obviously wrong in the
current global discourse, you didn’t provide a source from which angle
are you attacking this strain of thought.
7
You describe the facial recognition tool as ‘dystopian software’.
so you either didn’t do your research or purposefully misrepresented Mr
Ton-That. Or your enemies just cover their tracks really well changing
multiple articles, because also the application of said tool was to be
explicitly right wing! Specifically to detect illegal immigrants.
[<u>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoan\_Ton-That</u>](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoan_Ton-That)
And what is the funding supposed to prove? Either the power is
decentralized, then why Peter Thiel would be necessarily in there cabal.
OTOH, given the JQ centralization hypothesis, then Thiel is not in that
network explicitly. He’d need to be swayed to their side. What then
happens? If you go with centralized model of power, you need to get rid
of the notion of ‘our guys at the top’ as well. That would be a
blackpill.
The whole idea ‘reee, it’s not organic!!!’
[<u>https://twitter.com/JuliusBranson/status/1427486503073161216?s=09</u>](https://twitter.com/JuliusBranson/status/1427486503073161216?s=09)
the fear of astroturfing, and glowies.
not organic as RW cope - just organic things allowed, only the ‘free
market of ideas organic changes are allowed’, no restorative
acceleration by Will of (new) cultural Heroes. It’s a fundamentally
conservative, i.e. losing approach.
Yes, there are various attempts at infilitration of RW communities
[<u>https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/1431400775721361414</u>](https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/1431400775721361414)
It’s reality that needs to be accepted and every person / institutino
judged on an ongoing basis. Supprt specific actions, be vary of brands
for themselves.
\[...\]by their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:15–20.)
But Yarvin isn’t that bad,
[<u>https://twitter.com/joeldavisx/status/1431082856948768777</u>](https://twitter.com/joeldavisx/status/1431082856948768777)
at least according to the guy who declared holy jihad on Nrx from a
TradCath perspective
[<u>https://twitter.com/joeldavisx/status/1430689129747075072</u>](https://twitter.com/joeldavisx/status/1430689129747075072).
8
Well, one perspective is Yarvin’s own justification
[<u>https://americanmind.org/essays/the-clear-pill-part-1-of-5-the-four-stroke-regime/</u>](https://americanmind.org/essays/the-clear-pill-part-1-of-5-the-four-stroke-regime/)
On my end, I’ll write about the number 8 extensively in an upcoming
series of blog posts about NRx. Subscribe for free to stay tuned.